FAITH and FRICTION

Faith and Friction is a podcast and blog that delves deep into themes of faith and culture to build a community of change agents. We provide a platform for open-minded discussions on the intersection of faith and contemporary issues, fostering intellectual exploration and personal development. Our content is accessible and engaging, inviting individuals to contemplate and engage in meaningful conversations.
Episodes
Episodes



Thursday Jan 22, 2026
Faith and the Capricious Nature of God
Thursday Jan 22, 2026
Thursday Jan 22, 2026
In this episode, Mac and The Rev engage in a deep and compelling discussion on the nature of God, faith, and belief systems. They delve into the complexities and consequences of viewing God as capricious and explore the idea that traditional conceptions of God passed down through generations can lead to divisiveness and fear-based religion. Through referencing Rob Bell's controversial book, 'Love Wins,' and real-life scenarios, they challenge listeners to consider a more inclusive, loving, and evolving understanding of God. The conversation also addresses the importance of questioning old paradigms, embracing friction as a catalyst for growth, and the transformative power of unconditional love and forgiveness. 00:00 Introduction and Excitement 00:10 Exploring Faith and Belief in God 01:36 Rob Bell's Influence and Controversy 02:26 The Concept of a Capricious God 06:16 The Importance of Forgiveness and Love 07:45 The Dangers of Narrow Beliefs 11:24 Questioning Traditional Views of God 16:33 Boundaries of Love 17:05 Consequences of Actions 17:54 The Car Accident Analogy 19:23 Questioning Divine Will 20:40 Born Blessed, Not Broken 22:37 The Flow of the Universe 23:25 Love in Action 24:50 The Trinity and Capriciousness 26:48 Awakening to Responsibility 30:43 The Evolution of Faith 31:26 Embracing Friction for Growth



Thursday Jan 15, 2026
Faith on the Move: Challenging Immigration Boundaries
Thursday Jan 15, 2026
Thursday Jan 15, 2026
In this episode, Mac and The Rev delve into the complex interplay between faith, specifically Christian faith, and immigration policy in the United States. Acknowledging their own biases, they discuss the friction between social justice, compassion, and obedience to legal authority within the Christian perspective. Using biblical references and historical contexts, they challenge listeners to reconsider their views on immigration while emphasizing the overarching principle of love and compassion in making just decisions. The conversation balances the need for order and justice with the imperative of humane and compassionate treatment of immigrants, urging listeners to pause and reflect on their biases and the true teachings of Christ. 00:00 Introduction and Bias Acknowledgment 00:40 Faith and Immigration: A Christian Perspective 01:58 Social Justice and Resistance within Christianity 04:37 Questioning Authority and Rules 09:23 Balancing Compassion and Justice 12:02 Immigration and Common Ground 18:36 The Immigration Dilemma 19:10 Spirituality and Compassion 20:18 Mutual Accountability and Grieving 24:02 The Role of Fear and Bias 25:11 Scriptural Interpretations and Authority 26:13 Justice, Love, and Consequences 35:02 Concluding Thoughts on Love and Justice



Thursday Jan 08, 2026
New Wine and Wineskins: Going to the Other Side
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
In the first episode of the new year, Mac and the Rev dive into the theme of embracing change and evolution. As they discuss the importance of an open mind and heart at the start of the year, they emphasize the idea of making commitments to inner work and evolving spirituality. The conversation highlights the metaphor of crossing to the other side, recognizing the risks and rewards involved. They advocate for a new renaissance in faith and spirituality, encouraging listeners to challenge outdated beliefs and adopt new perspectives. The episode calls for courage and collective effort to achieve a greater good, inviting everyone to join in this transformative journey for 2026. 00:00 New Year, New Beginnings 00:50 Embracing Change and Challenges 02:51 Journey to the Other Side 06:18 Spiritual Dissection and Reconstruction 10:12 Evolving Spirituality and New Perspectives 13:00 Embracing New Perspectives 13:29 Thinking Differently 14:18 Reevaluating Beliefs 15:44 Navigating Change 16:24 The Journey of Growth 20:51 Theological Renaissance 23:48 Call to Action for 2026



Tuesday Dec 30, 2025
Beyond Bumper Stickers: The Dynamics of Faith and Power
Tuesday Dec 30, 2025
Tuesday Dec 30, 2025
In this episode of Faith and Friction, the hosts delve into the complex intersections of faith with culture, politics, and power. They explore the internal and external frictions that arise when deeply held beliefs are challenged, advocating for openness and dialogue over narrow-minded labeling. The conversation touches on the dangers of certainty, the role of doubt as a catalyst for growth, and the historical manipulation of faith for political and corporate gain. The discussion emphasizes the importance of unity, integrity, and returning to the core intentions of faith and national identity, setting the stage for future episodes on prophetic voices and forgotten foundations. 00:00 Introduction to Faith and Friction 00:24 Exploring Fear and Internal Friction 00:59 Faith vs. Power Dynamics 02:14 The Problem with Labels 05:02 The Danger of Certainty 13:21 The Evolution of Faith and Belief 16:51 Rallying in Piety 17:17 Billy Graham's Influence 17:46 Political Manipulation of Faith 18:59 Confronting Bias and Racism 21:07 Creating Friction for Change 22:19 Prophetic Voices and Perspectives 24:43 Christian Nationalism and Unity 27:33 Faith and Integrity 30:36 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps



Tuesday Dec 23, 2025
Conversations on Faith: Bridges or Barriers
Tuesday Dec 23, 2025
Tuesday Dec 23, 2025
In a continuation of the first episode, Mac and The Rev explore the interplay between faith and various aspects of life, emphasizing the inevitability of friction in such interactions. They underscore the importance of practicing faith through action and explore progressive perspectives on religious and social themes. The discussion also highlights the necessity of engaging with different viewpoints and the value of friction in fostering growth and deeper understanding. Additionally, they tease future topics, such as the tapestry of faith across various religions, to further examine how faith is experienced and expressed globally. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome Back 00:22 Exploring Faith and Friction 01:35 Faith and Social Justice 03:22 Living Your Faith Beyond Worship 06:20 Progressive Perspectives in Faith 11:43 Navigating Life's Challenges 13:33 Embracing Complexity and Friction 14:22 The Importance of Continuous Inquiry 15:41 Breaking Down Barriers for Growth 17:55 Navigating Disagreements with Kindness 20:20 The Role of Friction in Personal Evolution 24:30 Exploring Diverse Beliefs and Perspectives 26:12 Introducing Future Topics and Themes



Thursday Dec 18, 2025
Sacred Sparks: When Faith Meets Power
Thursday Dec 18, 2025
Thursday Dec 18, 2025
In this episode of 'Faith and Friction,' hosts Mack and the Rev dive deep into the intricate relationship between faith and power. Discussing historical and modern examples, they explore how religions, politics, and organizations balance or conflict with spiritual principles. The conversation touches on themes of authenticity, the dangers of religion co-opted by power, and the importance of allowing space for spiritual growth and questioning. Join them as they shine a light on the friction points that arise when faith meets the real world, and how to navigate them without losing authenticity or purpose. 00:00 Introduction to Faith and Friction 00:22 Exploring Faith and Power 01:18 Historical Perspectives on Religion and Power 04:34 Spirituality vs. Religion 07:07 Friction as a Catalyst for Growth 09:11 Religion and Politics: A Dangerous Mix 11:56 The Role of Fear in Religion and Politics 13:42 Questioning Authority and Embracing Spirituality 13:59 Confronting and Cutting Out the Bullshit 14:23 Fresh Air and Unconsciousness 15:00 The Importance of Asking Questions 15:50 Religion and Growth 16:29 Political and Social Unconsciousness 17:01 The Call for Evolution and Enlightenment 18:06 Opening the Window Shades 18:42 Shining Light on Issues 19:15 Exploring Perspectives and Seeking Answers 20:23 The Danger of Duality 21:35 Checks and Balances in Society 24:36 The Need for Conversations and Unity 25:47 The Urgency of Listening to Warnings 26:11 Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions



Thursday Dec 11, 2025
Confronting Bias: The Intersection of Religion, Education, and Politics
Thursday Dec 11, 2025
Thursday Dec 11, 2025
In this episode of Faith and Friction, hosts Mack and Rev dive into the intricate and often contentious interplay between faith, politics, and culture. They discuss a recent controversial case at the University of Oklahoma where a student's paper, grounded in biblical interpretations of gender, received a zero from her professor. This decision set off a chain of escalating frictions, involving the university administration, legal actions, and even the governor. The hosts explore the broader implications of such conflicts, touching on themes of bias, dialogue, and the necessity of confronting and understanding differing viewpoints. They also draw connections to historical figures who have challenged the status quo, emphasizing the ongoing relevance of these struggles in today's society. The conversation concludes with reflections on the need for faith and science to collaborate, and the importance of maintaining open, respectful dialogues despite deep-seated differences. 00:00 Introduction to Faith and Friction 00:16 Diving into Spiritual Friction 00:37 Historical Context and Current Events 01:54 The Controversial Paper Incident 05:05 Escalation and Broader Implications 07:36 Bias and Conflict Resolution 11:19 Faith, Politics, and Cultural Friction 15:22 Drama vs. Genuine Friction 16:37 Foundations of Faith and Kindness 17:31 Faith and Power Dynamics on Campus 18:00 Turning Point USA's Role 18:22 The Importance of Intent and Understanding 22:04 Historical Perspectives on Faith and Friction 29:27 Science and Faith: Partners in Understanding 31:09 Creating Reality Through Perception



Thursday Dec 04, 2025
The Genesis of Faith and Friction
Thursday Dec 04, 2025
Thursday Dec 04, 2025
In the inaugural episode of 'Faith and Friction,' hosts Mack and the Rev introduce the central premise of their new podcast—examining the often complex and uncomfortable intersections of faith and culture. Through candid conversation, they lay the groundwork for exploring themes like identity, belonging, and the impact of beliefs. They emphasize the importance of confronting friction in faith, politics, social justice, and personal growth, all while maintaining an open-minded and open-hearted dialogue. The episode ends with a promise of weekly themes and a commitment to embracing both tension and learning in their discussions. 00:00 Introduction and Setup 01:21 Welcome to Faith and Friction 02:02 Diving into Faith and Culture 02:44 Embracing Friction and Tension 05:14 Faith vs. Belief 07:08 Open-Minded Exploration 10:18 Themes and Topics for Future Episodes 12:12 Trust and Spiritual Grid 14:38 Discovering Inner Friction 14:49 The Beauty of Friction 15:26 Degrees of Friction 16:57 Faith-Based Experiences 20:51 The Art of Conversation 26:55 Faith and Social Justice 27:59 Wrapping Up and Looking Ahead

